GM Kiril Georgiev: "Dear Alex, I am glad to know that there are young people like you and Valeri who are searching for the truth!"
"My game against Borislav Ivanov was played at ten minutes plus five second increment. He played very fast, which came as a big surprise to me. He spent between five and seven seconds per move, and never took more time on any of his moves during the game. For the whole game he was supporting his chin with his two hands. He was making his moves quickly and vigorously, displaying a high level of self-confidence at all times."
picture can be seen here: http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211 ... 60613.aspx
"He nevertheless had a lot of time on the clock – at the end of the game he had over seven minutes left! He didn’t stand up even once during the game. Our game was not broadcast over the Internet. It made a strong impression on me that at some point, when the position was repeated twice, he thought for about three seconds and diverted, avoiding a three-fold repetition! Best Regards, Kiril."
I may be alone in my opinion, as I have only been playing chess games for 43 years, and started playing tournament games 26 years ago. But I see nothing strange in the photo, or how Georgiev described Ivanov behavior during the game.
I did a quick test to test the theory that no human player can consistently play Houdini 3 top moves choices in a game. I used the same method that Valeri Lilov used in his video. Put Houdini 3 pro on infinite analysis and scrolled the game moves to see if the move choice showed up in Houdini 3 top 3 picks as in the video. I picked a long game from Ivanov that Valeri said he detected cheating, since the theory is *no human* can consistently play Houdini 3 top move choices in a game. I pick a random long move game from GM Carlsen's latest tournament, so I would have a good sample size to test.
Why GM Carlsen, well if your going to test someone theory test it against the best, since the point is no human player can play this way. You should always try to put the theory to the ultimate test.
Here are my results, I tried to do as Valeri did in his video. Scroll the game wait a few seconds to see if Houdini 3 picked the players move in its top 3 choices. Here are my results. I posted the games so you could run your own test if you wish.
I subtracted known theory from both games.
GM Carlsen's game: Houdini matched players move in its top 3.....94.5%
Ivanov game: Houdini matched players move in its top 3............92.3%
[Event "Norway Chess Tournament"]
[Site "Sandnes NOR"]
[Date "2013.05.14"]
[EventDate "2013.05.07"]
[Round "5"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Magnus Carlsen"]
[Black "Teimour Radjabov"]
[ECO "D32"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "135"]
1.c4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.d4 d5 6.cxd5 exd5 7.Bb5
Bd6 8.O-O O-O 9.dxc5 Bxc5 10.b3 Bg4 11.Bb2 a6 12.Bxc6 bxc6
13.Rc1 Ba7 14.Ne2 Qd6 15.Be5 Qe7 16.Ned4 Bxf3 17.Nxf3 Rfc8
18.Qd3 a5 19.Bxf6 Qxf6 20.Rc2 Rd8 21.Rfc1 c5 22.e4 Qg6 23.Re1
dxe4 24.Qxe4 Qxe4 25.Rxe4 Rd1+ 26.Re1 Rxe1+ 27.Nxe1 Rd8 28.Kf1
a4 29.bxa4 Rd4 30.a5 Ra4 31.Rd2 Kf8 32.Nd3 f6 33.Nb2 Rxa5
34.Nc4 Ra4 35.Rc2 Ke7 36.Ke2 Ke6 37.Kd3 Kd5 38.a3 h5 39.h3 h4
40.Rc1 g6 41.Rc2 g5 42.Rc1 Ra6 43.Re1 Bb8 44.Re7 Bf4 45.Kc3 f5
46.Kb3 g4 47.a4 gxh3 48.gxh3 Rg6 49.a5 Rg1 50.a6 Rb1+ 51.Kc3
Rc1+ 52.Kd3 Rd1+ 53.Ke2 Ra1 54.Nb6+ Kd6 55.Rg7 Kc6 56.Rg6+ Kb5
57.Nd5 Be5 58.Rb6+ Kc4 59.Ne3+ Kc3 60.f4 Bd4 61.Nxf5 c4 62.Rc6
Rh1 63.Nd6 Rh2+ 64.Kf3 Kd3 65.Rxc4 Rxh3+ 66.Kg4 Rh1 67.Ra4 Bf2
68.Ra3+ 1-0
[White "Ivanov, Borislav"]
[Black "Rombaldoni, Axel"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A92"]
[WhiteElo "2303"]
[BlackElo "2486"]
[PlyCount "97"]
[EventDate "2013.05.01"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "BUL"]
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 e6 4. Nf3 Be7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O c6 7. b3 a5 8. Bf4 Ne4
9. Nfd2 d5 10. Nxe4 dxe4 11. Nc3 Bf6 12. Be5 Nd7 13. Bxf6 Qxf6 14. Qd2 e5 15.
d5 c5 16. d6 Ra6 17. Rad1 Kh8 18. a4 Rd8 19. Nb5 Nf8 20. e3 Bd7 21. Nc7 Ra7 22.
f3 exf3 23. Bxf3 Ne6 24. Nd5 Qh6 25. Qc3 e4 26. Bg2 Ng5 27. Ne7 Rf8 28. Qe5
Raa8 29. h4 Nf3+ 30. Bxf3 exf3 31. Qxc5 f4 32. exf4 Qe6 33. Rxf3 Qe2 34. Rfd3
Rf6 35. Qd5 Raf8 36. Qxb7 Bg4 37. Qd5 Re6 38. d7 Rd8 39. Qa8 Qxd1+ 40. Rxd1
Re1+ 41. Rxe1 Rxa8 42. Nc6 Bxd7 43. Ne5 Bf5 44. c5 Rb8 45. Nc6 Rc8 46. Nxa5 g5
47. Re5 Bc2 48. hxg5 Rd8 49. c6 1-0
The condemning words of GM Kiril Georgiev
Re: The condemning words of GM Kiril Georgiev
Really?
Yo compared the BEST Human player (GM Carlsen) whom has beaten Kasparov's Best ELO Rating with a player accused of cheating (Ivanov) which has 2250 ELO aprox. at the beginning of the scandal. He still isn't a GM
Why don't you gatter 10 games of 2250 rated players and see if they have a +90% matc with Rybka, Houdini or Stockfish?
The point is that he stated that he felt he was prepared when he managed to beat 10-0 Rybka and Houdini in matches.
I think he did not understand the magnitude of his stupid statement. Kasparon,Kramnik,Anand or Carlsen would'n win 10-0. They probable draw a match (50%)
Ivanov was so stupid that in his statement he did not allowed the programs a chance to DRAW!.
For me , specifically that big lie is what makes me think he is cheating, no joking.
Yo compared the BEST Human player (GM Carlsen) whom has beaten Kasparov's Best ELO Rating with a player accused of cheating (Ivanov) which has 2250 ELO aprox. at the beginning of the scandal. He still isn't a GM
Why don't you gatter 10 games of 2250 rated players and see if they have a +90% matc with Rybka, Houdini or Stockfish?
The point is that he stated that he felt he was prepared when he managed to beat 10-0 Rybka and Houdini in matches.
I think he did not understand the magnitude of his stupid statement. Kasparon,Kramnik,Anand or Carlsen would'n win 10-0. They probable draw a match (50%)
Ivanov was so stupid that in his statement he did not allowed the programs a chance to DRAW!.
For me , specifically that big lie is what makes me think he is cheating, no joking.