How Much Advantage?

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Re: How Much Advantage?

Post by kingliveson » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:30 am

Ted Summers wrote:
kingliveson wrote:
hyatt wrote:How did black get here? I've seen white sac that many pawns in something like the Goring gambit or something, but black?

I am not sure black is winning, but after looking at it a bit about the only move I see is Kd1. Can't play d3 to cut the bishop off so I can castle, as the queen check or the rook taking on c2 is a problem. Can't play c3 as Qd2 seems to be problematic. I let Crafty run for 30 minutes on an 8 core box and had a score near zero... Hard to say how this ends. Black's lead in development is significant, if it can be used and if queens stick around.

The game came about while doing some evaluation tuning. Unfortunately it was played in Arena GUI which didnt have auto save enabled. :oops:
This is what I found in a database lookup. Fried Liver anyone? :D

[Event "Kuala Lumpur MCF"]
[Site "Kuala Lumpur"]
[Date "2008.08.29"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Mas, Hafizulhelmi"]
[Black "Iuldachev, Saidali"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C58"]
[WhiteElo "2386"]
[BlackElo "2520"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[EventDate "2008.08.26"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "MAS"]
[EventCategory "9"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2008.11.05"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Na5 6. Bb5+ c6 7. dxc6 bxc6 8.
Qf3 Be7 9. Bxc6+ Nxc6 10. Qxc6+ Bd7 11. Qc4 O-O 12. Nc3 Rc8 13. Qe2 h6 14. Nf3
e4 15. Nxe4 Nxe4 16. Qxe4 Bb5 17. a4 Re8 18. axb5 Bd6 19. Qxe8+ Qxe8+ 20. Kd1
Qxb5 21. Ne1 Re8 22. d3 Qh5+ 23. f3 Qe5 24. Bd2 Qxb2 25. Rc1 Ba3 26. c3 Qb3+
27. Rc2 Qb1+ 28. Bc1 Bxc1 29. Rxc1 Rxe1+ 0-1
What a great find Ted... I really wish I had the game to compare. It was played between Houdini and a modified IvanHoe am working on. Houdini won but according to both engines, IvanHoe did manage to get a slight advantage a few moves after getting into this position which was why I got curious as to whether the position was actually lost.
PAWN : Knight >> Bishop >> Rook >>Queen

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